1 2 Home Forums Competitive Play Smogon Metagames BDSP Metagames Metagame BDSP UU (Raikou banned Post 99) Eve Dec 1, 2021 Prev 1 2 3 4 Toy Time King Feb 22, 2022 76. My kiddo wanted my attention. Also you forgot to add executtor and victrebeel in B- rank. 7 mo. I recently ran another run of Platinum, and the first thing I did was catch a Starly and call it &x27;UUBL&x27;. Sorry it took so long for an update, I will update the OP at some point with the following changes: B rank to A- DruddigonB rank to A- Sigilyph, Removed Kabutops, Mandibuzz and Gastrodon, Gotta say that i put meta in A+ with heavy heart.. I personally believe it's the 2nd best mon in the entire tier after Scizor. Post intelligently. UiHJh [AGZMEN] Ubers is the most inclusive of Smogon 's tiers, allowing the use of any Pokmon species. Arceus-Fighting is incredibly weak to common Psychic types and its STAB is widely resisted, especially by Lugia. Froslass is also slightly faster, but all of the Fire-types mentioned should be winning that match up regardless. Rock Slide Stone Edge. Welcome to Smogon Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, and make sure you take some time to read the global rules . Cookie Notice Welcome to Smogon Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, and make sure you take some time to read the global rules . NU UU RU BDSP OU Offensive Rapid Spin Defensive Rapid Spin These are sample sets while we work on setting up analyses for the BDSP OU metagame. And under no circumstances should any of them be facing off against Garchomp, even with, as you say, a 70BP Hidden Power Ice (good luck getting that, too!). 2- I'm not saying metagross is bad. Dubbed the Flycatcher Pokmon, Victreebel is based on the real-world pitcher plants, which attract prey into their pitfall traps with sweet smells, only to digest them slowly once they've fallen into their inescapable doom. Flygon&x27;s physical attack is higher than it&x27;s special, and it also has access to Dragon Dance, which is one of the best moves in the game. RULES. https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8bdspuu-1630740991, https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8bdspuu-1627234390-zxg61q48his0bhvt2uofbabbwg8y6czpw. Smogon-gen-8- ou - teams . Lucario is a bipedal, canine-like Pokmon with predominantly blue and black fur. This score is an overall performance number from 0 to 100, where 100 is the best Pokemon in that league and category. As a council, we. We touched on usage not being the sole reason behind viability of anything before, but this is very true here as a lot of things accumulate ladder usage despite not being the best option. Generally any pokemon is better if you EV train, gets a great nature and you go through the additional tedium of grinding to level 60+. Lucario is a bipedal, canine-like Pokmon with predominantly blue and black fur. Lucario is a bipedal, canine-like Pokmon with predominantly blue and black fur. It does exploit lanturn which people tend to run a lot as their only special defensive wall but snorlax and gigalith still stop it.. and especially snorlax is still a very good pokemon in the tier. Welcome to Smogon Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, and make sure you take some time to read the global rules . However with Rotom-Heat usage being high it is hard to justify using Typhlosion. Web. When its mouth is open, two pairs of pointed teeth, one in the upper jaw and one in the lower, can be seen. This is by no means discouraging other suggestions, I just feel these may be a bit more controversial and would like for us to agree on where we should place these first. -Absol now struggles a lot more than before and thats mainly due to the meta being more offensive than before.. now it cant switch into anything or setup into anything. Welcome to Smogon Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, and make sure you take some time to read the global rules . Question: I haven't played much BDSP yet, but I used to play DPP on Shoddy back in the day. View strategies and more for Mew on the Smogon Strategy Pokedex. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Ability Levitate. Web. Web. Anyways my original argument for metagross is that it will fullfill its role in a team most of the times and it doesn't need much support to do so.. it has a kit that allows it to deal with most of the stuff in the tier and in my opinion it is one of the top threats in UU. It possesses a short, round spike on the back of each forepaw, in addition to a third on its chest. While all non-Uber Pokmon can be used in OU, only those Pokmon that make up at least 4. Att. A- to B+ is a small difference and i guess it has to do with how people see those 2 pokemons. Introduction Latios was the premier offensive Pokmon throughout its stay in BDSP OU. Personally i could say that yes, maybe it is B tier and not B-. But A or A- that its being asked sounds like the pokemon is very overrated. Ubers is the most inclusive of Smogon's tiers, aiming to allow the use of as many Pokemon as competitively possible. In this thread, we as a community will be ranking every single usable Pokemon into "tiers." You're encouraged to post your thoughts and opinions on the various Pokemon that are usable in BDSP OU and what tier they should fall under. Seconding Staraptor to the A-rank realm. Standard: $4.99 a month (Beginner plan + Standard website builder), Premium: $7.48 a month (Beginner plan + Premium website builder), Connect Domain: $5 a month (not available in the US, unfortunately), Shared Starter: $6.99 a month (1 website), Shared Unlimited: $12.99 a month (unlimited websites). Web. Mime) being ill-suited alternatives. No denying that. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Web. Fight me. Posts like "I think pokemon X should be in this tier" will be deleted and infracted if it is a repeat issue. it seems to me that heracross does lose from a metagross variant with 0 bulk.. which isnt even the optimal spread but i made it just for the sake of the argument. I think out of all these Pokemon, Charizard is actually the most broken. The goal of this thread is to sort Pokemon that are viable in the tier into ranks that reflect their usefulness in descending order, with players being encouraged to post their thoughts on these ranks and the viability of Pokemon here. 252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Krookodile: 430-507 (129.9 - 153.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO If you are nominating a Pokemon to be ranked (meaning it was previously unranked), then you need to provide replays of it being used in the metagame and you also should go out of your way to be as thorough as possible in explaining why it has a niche in the metagame. Web. If you think a Pokemon deserves to rise or drop, explain what has changed in the meta to cause such Pokemon to get better or worse. And I'd say that's enough for it to at least be C rank. competitive stats, moves, terastalize types, movesets, natures, abilities, and EV spreads for undefined, Dragapult. I would personally put it in the A-/B+ range. ----- Vire MEMBRO do Canal ----- httpswww.youtube.comchannelUC34bJQhnWeq2UD8DhvD1bhAjoin ----- LEIA A DESC. I cannot see Gyarados on the list - is it that outclassed rn? I recently ran another run of Platinum, and the first thing I did was catch a Starly and call it &x27;UUBL&x27;. That being said, it is an excellent Pokemon. TM11 Sunny Day--101 5--The user intensifies the sun for five turns, powering up Fire-type moves. 1 2 Home Forums Competitive Play Smogon Metagames BDSP Metagames Metagame BDSP UU (Raikou banned Post 99) Eve Dec 1, 2021 Prev 1 2 3 4 Toy Time King Feb 22, 2022 76. Def stats. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Again, please keep discussion civil. Smeargle . For more information, please see our which is kinda the worst type of team to run right now but okaaaay really? haha yes. S Rank:Reserved for Pokemon that are the pinnacle of the UU metagame. Their use has low risk involved and high reward exerted. However, after several months of its continued dominance, Latios was suspected once again. Free plan; Personal: $4 a month; Premium: $8 a month Anyway, I don't have any plans today and I've still been playing UU, seeing how BDSPPL is going for UU and I really think this VR needs some updating when PL is done. not having a knock absorber? 1415 Gliscor. xXBlu3BreathXx You said in your post that manaphy couldn't be oppressive because it didn't have insane usage, which isn't true at all. It's easy! And interesting. Maybe, but I think people under appreciate how GOOD it is to have a base speed higher than 100. Web. 252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Forretress: 1272-1500 (359.3 - 423.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO. Coba/Chople is heavily underutilized on the dd set allowing it to take advantage of mons like Crobat, not to mention that while drain punch in nice for recovery it can stillHJK muscle through more tankier mons which helps it get out of control with moxie boosts. ----- Vire MEMBRO do Canal ----- httpswww.youtube.comchannelUC34bJQhnWeq2UD8DhvD1bhAjoin ----- LEIA A DESC. Welcome to the UU Viability Rankings Thread. Weaknesses Water (2), Ice (4) Held Item Toxic Orb. A TIER. It's base 105 speed v base 120. and our A bulky set sounds like it would easily exacerbate these matchups and would look to be outclassed by many Defog users and even Donphan. Web. Web. Its a gimmick, but since FB cant miss with No Guard, and it has a high Base Power, it can still do more than it really should. Chople Berry. Its just that it doesn't strike me as a S pokemon(neither does metagross or other uu) Its not really versatile, has a fewcounters/checks, suffers 4 move slot syndrome, and its weak to rocks. BDSP SMOGON TIERING PREDICTIONS of pokemon from gens 1 through 4 (explanation in comments) comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment xoopmax Additional comment actions Venomoth has been RUBL since gen 5, i cant imagine it droppjng to PU when there is a smaller pokedex and (possibly) heavy-duty boots. Web. Web. Bisharp is a great anti-offense pokemon which exploits the best wall in UU(mandibuzz) and most other walls struggle to stop it aswell. And be a good annoyer with Wisp + Knock off. As a physical wall it doesnt offer anything more than the existing ones and it struggles to switch into the best wallbreakers. I'd say one of the A-ranks. First of all i agree to exeggutor and victrebell being added and with mandibuzz and mismagius going up and down respectively. . Even as the Pokdex expanded, Blaziken&x27;s sheer power always landed it in the realm of Smogon&x27;s Ubers tier, and this was furthered by Blaziken eventually gaining a Mega Evolution in Pokmon X and Y. PokeMMO UU Viability Ranking S Rank : Reserved for Pokemon that are the pinnacle of the UU metagame. BDSP OU Ranking Tier List S Rank: S Rank Weavile S- Rank Gliscor Heatran Rotom-Wash Scizor A Rank: A+ Rank Alakazam Clefable Garchomp Latias Starmie A Rank Azumarill Breloom Crawdaunt Infernape Lucario A- Rank Azelf Blissey Celebi Dragonite Feraligatr Mamoswine Nidoking Skarmory Suicune Tangrowth Togekiss B Rank: B+ Rank Jirachi Magnezone Mew Its not the best Pokmon ever, sure, but base 105 speed and base 100 attack do significant damage, and Base 80 SpA is enough for STAB Fire Blast. Scrafty is easily walled by mandibuzz w/brave bird , crobat is still faster after a dragon dance, druddigon can dragon tail, arcanine & staraptor take litte dmg from crunch/dpunch and ko it, and other common walls like gastrodon, bronzong, can weaken scrafty enough to be revenge killed with a priority mov (medicham fake out, mamoswine ice shard, etc). If you are unsure where to post something, feel free to start a conversation with the mod team on here or discord. You're right that they can't switch in, but it doesn't beat them 1v1 without significant prior damage and/or good prediction, even on a free switch. Make your posts based off of experience and research, not off of emotion. However, it still puts in some work against a lot of walls, nearly always forcing a sack or a switch. 252 Atk Guts Heracross Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Metagross: 120-142 (77.4 - 91.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO. 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